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Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

badguy — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 09:56:41 -0000

I wanted to throw this out as an alternative perspective on this discussion. I encourage you to take the time not only to read this post, but follow the links as well...

http://postmodernegro.wordp...

(note: I met Anthony this summer at Cornerstone where he was an invited speaker.)

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Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

inworship — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:15:48 -0000

Carl, I think Bad brought up a really good point there.

Mandy, I hear you. I think the quote that Carl, jut highlighted from Bad speaks to what you are saying. We are more aware and alert right now than we have been as a people for a long time. It will be interesting to see if people can lay down "allegiance" to party and really vote their heart.

Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

Mandy — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:41:22 -0000

badguy--

I know I do not have to vote. However, I think that, many people don't and it's not right.

Maybe I didn't make myself clear, but I wasn't trying to say that I will be voting for either of the 2 main parties come November. I know that many people are frustrated with our "2" choices this year, feeling that America is getting "screwed" whichever one we choose. Well I don't know about that, but I have a feeling that there will be a high amount of people voting for an independent, or libertarian this fall. Definitely not enough to actually clinch the vote, and probably not quite the number that did in the 1992 election, trying to get their voice heard that indeed this two-party system is not working. I don't agree with not voting to get your voice heard; I find it contradictory to what America is supposed to stand for.

For the first time in hundreds of years, America is more pessimistic than ever about where the country is going. According to a recent poll almost 80% agreed with the statement that they think "America isn't headed in the right direction".

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Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

ckroboth — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:46:50 -0000

I started to comment a couple times to this post.. But it wasn't tell Nor's post today, that I came out of hiding...

I read Bad's comment and just want say he is Spot on...

If anything, the changing political winds are helping many Christ-followers take the hard look at their involvement with politics and their reliance on government for things that are the church’s responsibility that they should have been taking all along.

I have done this and it is so freeing not to rely on the things of this world, including the government.

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Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

inworship — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:59:25 -0000

No worries. And, sir? We are all friends here, no sir necessary :)

Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

George R. Eddy — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:29:50 -0000

Terribly sorry, sir, but in that first comment, the website was incorrect, and there was no way to delete or correct it. That's one thing LiveJournal is still able to do that Wordpress still can't. I like to brag that Wordpress is what LiveJournal wants to be when it grows up, but this bug makes it impossible to fix my bugs.

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Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

inworship — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:21:37 -0000

Alright George I get it :)

Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

George R. Eddy — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:18:41 -0000

The prayer Miller prayed was a very well-scripted prayer, which is in my opinion has just enough Democrat in it to keep me from thinking he’s sold out to the GOP. In fact, it really was an excellent prayer, reminding me of those ϋber-talented, powerful “prayer ninjas” that I once read about in a blog called Stuff Christians Like

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Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

George R. Eddy — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:16:42 -0000

The prayer Miller prayed was a very well-scripted prayer, which is in my opinion has just enough Democrat in it to keep me from thinking he's sold out to the GOP. In fact, it really was an excellent prayer, reminding me of those ϋber-talented, powerful "prayer ninjas" that I once read about in a blog called Stuff Christians Like.

Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

Brandy — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:05:54 -0000

Ohhh you took the bait. Sweet. :lol:

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Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

inworship — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:18:55 -0000

Exactly. Haha!

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Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

Brandy — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:57:45 -0000

"Brandy, you just like to disagree"

:roll: No I don't.

;-)

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Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

Jason — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:46:15 -0000

you know that you are causing division over division, don't you?

As well, you are also telling other people what should be important to them while yet, "I don’t even begin to declare that my thoughts have the answers"

If you really had a problem with division you wouldn't be causing it.

Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

inworship — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:17:40 -0000

"“like your pinkie” - that was handled a lot nicer than it could have been…"

Of course it could have been over beer as well :)

Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

badguy — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:11:04 -0000

"like your pinkie" - that was handled a lot nicer than it could have been...

little c church...big C cynical!

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Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

inworship — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:22:53 -0000

Hahahaha!!!!!

Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

Christian — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:19:02 -0000

If there were only something even smaller. Like your pinkie.

Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

inworship — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:17:54 -0000

So as to not offend, should I start using c instead of C when talking to you :)

Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

Christian — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:15:25 -0000

Yep. Little c.

Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

inworship — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:05:51 -0000

I keep thinking that "the road is narrow and few are those who travel it".

Cynical...me :)

Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

Christian — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:04:36 -0000

Now who's being cynical? ;)

You reminded me of about something I just read. Once, when Rome tried to smother the Christians they made it a law that everyone would have to make sacrifices to the Roman gods. According to W. H. C. Frend's "The Rise of Christianity" so many Christians rushed to make sacrifices and avoid imperial displeasure that "the Christian church practically collapsed".

Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

inworship — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:56:36 -0000

No, definitely not, "Give Ceaser what is Ceaser's."

Worldly government is clearly not going anywhere. It is a necessary evil. But it is not my ultimate authority. I do believe the day is coming, in America, where I will have to choose between my faith and what the government tells me. This has happened over time and is happening around the world now. there does come a point where we have to choose.

I am not interested in dissecting myself from the world. I am looking to engage even more into it. But, I don't believe that ultimately the world has the same intentions as I do. I do "this" to show them Jesus. They can only do that, if they believe as well.

Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

Christian — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:51:20 -0000

You aren't espousing some sort of watered down version of Christan anarchy are you? WE are the government. Once we start recusing ourselves from the political and civic arena then we have turned things over to the 'powers and principalities'. Of course we don't want to become those same powers (but it's a little late to be worrying about that), we want to remember that government is a necessary 'evil'. Unless we intend to go back to the first Christian church paradigm, which ain't likely to happen any time soon.

What does the bible say about being snakes and doves?

Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

inworship — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:38:44 -0000

I can see how point #2 would be taken that way, but it is exactly that opposite. We as Christians should be leading what is right and just and Godly. We don't even need politics to do this. This is not to say that we take over politics, cause then we would cease, again, to be the church. If we stay focused on what it means to be the church and go boldly in it, politics are truly an afterthought. Just like Jesus seemed to approach it.

On whether or not we are working side by side with others, religious or not, that goes without saying if we are truly the church.

Re: Why Politics Frustrate Me

Christian — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:22:34 -0000

it just doesn’t match up with the size and strength of those who say they are the church.

Well put. The capital C keeps getting smaller.

I think that your point #2 underlines the idea that as Christians we should become MORE involved in politics and civics, not LESS involved. I'm not talking about PACs and lobbying or political endorsement, but being unafraid to step in and work shoulder to shoulder with those who may not claim similar religious (or may even claim different religious) affiliations from ourselves.

The GOOD thing about America is that we don't so easily form a consensus of political thought. Countries that do often find themselves slipping into fascism. I think the same thing can be said about religion. We shouldn't allow our disagreements over politics or orthodoxy get in the way of doing what needs to be done for the Kingdom.